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Wednesday, June 08, 2005

Toshiba burns Sony's Playstation 3 with HD-DVD (Update)



Toshiba burns Sony's Playstation 3 with HD-DVD (Update)

"Let the format wars begin. Toshiba and several manufacturers have announced the development of a prototype HD DVD-R disc that is ready for mass production. The next-generation DVD disc can be written once and can hold up to 15 gigabytes of data.

A breakthrough in a new dye developed for blue-laser applications allows the HD-DVD-R disc to be produced at a high volume. Hitachi Maxell and Mitsubishi Kagaku Media/Verbatim will have commerical HD-DVD-R discs available by spring 2005, the same time that HD-DVD recorders are scheduled to drop to stores.

The announcement is a loud shot against Sony and its next-generation DVD format called Blu-ray, which will be included in the company's next-generation console, Playstation 3, also due out next spring."

What it will all comes down to is the PS3 launch price and of course most important the game prices. If the Blue-Ray disks cost as much as they are reporting one disk could cost you $10 more than they do now. While with a HD-DVD disk you are only looking at a 10% hike. Are the consumers ready to stick in a toe or take a dive?

I think the HD-DVD solution will be a better fit. The technology in the Blue-Ray might be overkill but leave it to Sony to make it work...look at what they did with the PS2 and DVD's.

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Anonymous STEEEVIEPSP
yea how much with these things make me spend....I am already poor...raise the minimum wage!!!!!! Damn  

Blogger D.Vader
"What it will all comes down to is the PS3 launch price and of course most important the game prices. If the Blue-Ray disks cost as much as they are reporting one disk could cost you $10 more than they do now.

While with a HD-DVD disk you are only looking at a 10% hike. Are the consumers ready to stick in a toe or take a dive?"

MS is already on record with saying their games will be in the $60 range and there are rumblings about EA charging $70. The issue is not the cost of the disk but the content on the disk. Systems with more capabilities will have higher costs to produce games to take advantage of that capability. Also Sony has dramatically reduced the cost of producing the Blu-Ray disks. See Blu-Ray is Ramping up (Prototype up to 200GB)

"I think the HD-DVD solution will be a better fit. The technology in the Blue-Ray might be overkill but leave it to Sony to make it work."

HD-DVD is good, but Blu-Ray is better. The capacity for Blu-Ray keeps getting bigger and bigger. HD-DVD seems to be stuck at 45GB. If we are going to be thinking forward, why not try to develope a standard for tommorrow and then some.

I would imagine the 2 standards would coexists, but ultimately I believe storage will win out. Imagine a few seasons of a TV show on 1 Disk. Dramatically cutting cost of production, quality can go up due to the fact that you are supplying less physical items that can bust. Also consider that this disk standard will be used in computers as well and could ultimately be a great backup media.

Honestly I don't really see the analogy between this and the beta/vhs days. The huge difference this time around is the formfactor for both discs should be the same. 5" circle, should be no problem to create players that suppport both standards. There is no mechanical cost to do so.


"..look at what they did with the PS2 and DVD's."

What did the PS2 do to DVD's? At the time the PS2 was released it was the cheapest DVD player on the market. They even upgraded the model to include progressive scan. I have never had a problem with any commerically produced DVD playing in the system.  

Blogger Blunt
Well they are saying the $10 hike is in the production costs for all manufacturers not just Sony. You are speaking on development costs. So if the 360 was using BR the price might be $10 more...$70 range.

Ioemga's patent is the biggest step forward without changing format's at all. 850GB on one disk makes HD and BR look like punks and there is no format change. Iomega will detail the technology based on the patent at the Information Storage Industry Consortium symposium in July in Monterey, California. I can wait another year or two if it means I don't need to change format for even better storage.


"What did the PS2 do to DVD's? At the time the PS2 was released it was the cheapest DVD player on the market. They even upgraded the model to include progressive scan. I have never had a problem with any commerically produced DVD playing in the system. "

I was giving the PS a compliment on the DVD players...they made it cheap for everyone and it was a good product....always so defensive.  

Blogger D.Vader
Heheheh it didn't sound complimentary. Iomega's stuff is still at the very very least 2 years away. People want HiDef optical storage now.

Also consider TDK has a working 100GB BR disk and BR supports have been prototyping 200GB disks.

Blu-Ray is a format that will grow with the times. Get on the bandwagon!  

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